Yamaha Venova YVS-100

Leuk hebbedingetje, maar viel tegen om werkelijk te gebruiken... maar dat ligt aan de speler ;)

01. Wederom uitmuntende service van 'Bax'. Online bestellen en correcte afhaling ( vriendelijke winkelmedewerkster ).

02. Ogenopentrekkend instrument: klank is zoals beschreven en getoond in de diverse video's ( op jullie site ). Gewoon verbluffende klank ( sax/klarinet ) die uit dit instrument tevoorschijn komt.

Hierbij dien ik Edgard L. bij te treden: bespeelbaarheid is niet direct te vergelijken met een blokfluit, het 'blazen' vergt enige oefening.



Al bij al wederom een dikke '+' voor 'Bax'...

Instrument zou in alle toonsoorten te bespelen zijn. Klopt niets van! Eigenlijk alleen in C is het om aan te horen. Vrijwel alle ## en mollen zitten er ver naast. Had ik niet verwacht van een Yamaha instrument.

Vooropgesteld: het concept van dit instrument is geniaal.
Ik speel regelmatig op allerlei verschillende soorten saxofoons. Zuiver. Op dit instrument is dat ook zeker te doen, maar er zijn helaas wel erg grote intonatieproblemen. Met name de F in het lage register is te hoog en de F# in het lage register snap ik helemaal niet. Dat is écht een puntje voor Venova 2.0.
Wat mij aanspreekt bij dit instrument is dat de klankkleur bij een wat lagere lipspanning erg mooi zwoel wordt.
Maar bovenal: door het dichthouden van het bovenste pijpje, krijg je er als je de juiste grepen verder toepast gratis een half experimenteel oktaaf in de laagte erbij!
Ik zou zeggen: laat die demo's voor wat ze zijn - die klinken meestal als een uitgeknepen eend - en probeer hem zelf.
Dit is er een uit de categorie Easy to play - Hard to master. Maar van alle instrumenten onder de 180 gram heeft deze véruit de meeste expressiemogelijkheden.
Ik doe hem nooit meer weg.

Super leuk instrument. Prima prijs kwaliteit verhouding. Goed geluid!

Je l'ai reçu en cadeau,

Il es cool mai je ne trouve pas de tablature ou partition adapté a l'instrument..

Quelqu'un aurait un conseil ?

Merci D'avance.

Dit is een leuk instrument met een heel goede prijs/kwaliteit verhouding. Een stevig koffertje en een cleaning swab zijn inbegrepen. Wie blokfluit speelt kan zogezegd Venova spelen maar je hebt wel enige ervaring als rietblazer nodig. Het bijgeleverde plastic rietje is het enige minpunt. Met een echt riet (soprano- of zelfs altosax) speelt het een stuk gemakkelijker. Klinkt vrij luid en de kat gaat gegarandeerd lopen.

Leuk instrument, leuk geluid, mooi samenspel met piano

Having played both saxophone and recorder for several decades, the idea of a lightweight, easily portable instrument combining a sax mouthpiece with recorder fingering was naturally appealing to me. Now that I've bought one via Bax Music and tried it out for a couple of weeks, I find that while I'm enjoying playing it I'm quite unsure where it could really fit into the woodwind instrument market.



Yamaha are marketing the Venova as “a casual instrument” and as something which might help a child who plays recorder to bridge the learning gap between that and saxophone. The “casual” marketing tends, I suppose to stress that this is more of a fun instrument than a serious one. The idea of it as a learning tool for a child sounds fair enough – but, having played a Venova and encountered certain problems (which Yamaha aren't hiding but aren't publicising either) I'm inclined to think that a child wanting to move from recorder to sax would be better off making the transition directly, even if a sax is heavier and costlier than a Venova.



The big problem is that the accidentals are very weak indeed. The Venova has a two octave range from middle C upwards – the same as a tenor recorder minus a top note or two – so its home key is C. Check the Yamaha promotional videos on YouTube and you'll find that almost all of the nicely played tunes being featured are played in the key of C. Moreover, their “Learn To Play Venova” series of nine brief YouTube tutorials doesn't take you outside the key of C at all. This doesn't surprise me, because as soon as you try to move away from the two keys without accidentals, C Major and A Minor, you'll run into pitching difficulties.



I've found that F# is virtually non-existent in the lower octave, a little better in the upper one. Conversely G# is barely there in the upper octave but hardly present in the lower one. A reasonable B Flat can be achieved in the lower octave, but is much trickier in the higher one. Yamaha do explain, in the fingering chart provided with the Venova, that these notes “tend to easily play sharp and are hard to resonate” and suggest that the player should “use airflow and embouchure control to adjust intonation”, which is all true enough – but the problem is I, think more fundamental than the use of the phrase “tend to” suggests. Moreover, the mouthpiece and blowing skills required to make the adjustments indicated are outdo those employed by most professional wind players on traditional instruments, which cancels out the idea that this is an easy instrument for beginners... except when playing in C Major or A Minor...



I was really surprised by this, not least because recorder makers solved these pitching problems hundreds of years ago, and Yamaha themselves make perfectly satisfactory resin recorders! I'm guessing, but I wonder whether the problem might not be that they've attempted to apply recorder fingering (or, as their publicity carefully states, “recorder-like fingering”) to an instrument with a cylindrical bore: that is, the space inside the instrument is cylindrical, being equal in diameter at both ends, as with a flute. Most woodwind (and all brass) instruments, including sax, have a conical bore, being narrower at the mouthpiece end than at the other. The recorder, however, is not cylindrical – it has a reversed conical bore, being woidr at the mouthpiece end than at the base, so I wonder whether swapping that characteristic has led to the problems described above.



In short, it's not the easy instrument to play that it appears to be. To be able to play it seriously in most of the popular jazz, rock or pop keys will take quite a lot of work and practice, perhaps even more than is required when learning to play either saxophone or recorder. If you just want a “casual instrument” to tootle on, it might be the one for you. Otherwise, both sax and recorder are more finished, flexible instruments.



Finally, I agree with something mentioned in most of the online reviews of the Vnova that I've seen: the synthetic reed supplied with the instrument is pretty terrible and won't make life easier for most players, so when purchasing you might want to pick up some traditional cane soprano sax reeds as well. I'm getting decent results from D'Addario Rico Royal strength 3, but reed choice is very much a matter of personal taste!

Super leuk ding om prachtige muziek mee te maken